From: Michael Hitchens (M.Hitchens@st.nepean.uws.edu.au)
Date: Wed 02 Nov 1994 - 05:00:18 EET
Some time ago someone asked about the population of Sartar. Somepbody else may have answered ( I'm about two weeks behind in my reading) but anyway here are some figures I use
Amad
Population: 2,500
Number of Clans: 3
Aranwyth
Population: 5,500
Number of Clans: 4
Bachad
Population: 4,500
Number of Clans: 5
Balkoth
Population: 3,500
Number of Clans: 3
Balmyr
Population: 3,500
Number of Clans: 3
Cinsina
Population: 11,000
Number of Clans: 8
Colymar
Population: 13,000
Number of Clans: 12
Culbrea
Population: 7,000
Number of Clans: 7
Dinacoli
Population: 15,000
Number of Clans: 12
Dundealos
Population: 9,500
Number of Clans: 8
Kheldon
Population: 6,000
Number of Clans: 5
Kultain
Population: 9,000
Number of Clans: 7
Lismelder
Population: 7,000
Number of Clans: 6
Locaem
Population: 8,500
Number of Clans: 7
Malani
Population: 9,000
Number of Clans: 8
Princeros
Population: 6,000
Number of Clans: 5
Sambari
Population: 4,000
Number of Clans: 3
Torkani
Population: 6,500
Number of Clans: 5
Tovtaros
Population: 4,500
Number of Clans: 5
Tres
Population: 3,000
Number of Clans: 3
Vantaros
Population: 6,500
Number of Clans: 6
Sun Dome County
Population: 7,000
Telmori
Population: 10,000
Number of Clans: ??
Durulz
Population: 9,000
Number of Clans: 9
There are seven cities in Sartar
Bold Home 8,000 (Large City) Alda-chur 4,000 (Medium City) Alone 1,000 (Small City) Jonstown 2,000 (Small City) Wilmskirk 1,500 (Small City) Swenstown 1,500 (Small City) Duck Point 1,000 (Small City)
I know I have propably been Gregged all over the place, but at least they are something.
Just a few notes.
I have assumed that the 180,000 figure given in the Genertela book
includes the Sun Domers (as I can not see where else they would be included).
The 10,000 Ducks are in the Durulz "tribe" total and Duck Point. I have
assumed the population of Duck Point is almost wholly Duck.
The figures for Bold Home and Alda-Chur fall within the ratings for thier
sizes as given on the map of Dragon Pass in the Genertela book.
The figures for Alone, Jonstown, Wilmskirk and Swenstown are really dodgy. I don't think the population of Clearwine (~1500) as given in KoS and the population of Sartar in the Genertela book (180,000) can both be correct. On the map in the Dragon Pass boardgame there are about 16 stockades (including Clearwine) in the region covered by the 180,000 figure, as well as the six cities (not counting Duck Point as I don't think its population counts towards the 180,000). Now given that Glorantha is supposed to run on a maximum of 10% urbanisation, where unrbanisation is anything bigger than a village, that only leaves 18,000 for the towns and cities of Sartar. The map says Bold Home is a large city (6,000 - 25,000) and Alda Chur is a medium city (2,000 - 8,000) The absolute minimum for these two cities is a total 8,000. I have pegged it at 12,000 to be reasonable. But that leaves 6,000 people for 4 cities and 16 "stockades". I decided to fiddle it a bit and not count the stockades as "urbanisation". I justified this (weakly) by claiming that the cities of Saratr are not really as urbanised as elsewhere - being very spread out and having vegetable plots for each household (I seem to remember that from somewhere). Remember that Sartar built the walls first. I assuming that they have nowhere near filled up. I assume that the stockades are a maximum of 500 each. That gives less than 8000 total for them (which means I think Clearwine is overestimated by a factor of at least 3 in KoS, unless Greg wants to tell us that Sartar has a population of about ~500,000 - or the 180,000 is adults only).
Note also that new Pavis is bigger than anything in Sartar other Boldhome or Alda-Chur. I certinaly did not expect that when I started. I also thknk it is quite a different city, depsite being built by Sartarites. The buildings may be similar, but they are much more densely packed, having less room within the walls per person.
Anyway, I hope this is useful to someone. Comments and opinions welcome, I'd really like to get something reasonable
Michael
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