From: Dave Cordes (dave_cordes@cl_63smtp_gw.chinalake.navy.mil)
Date: Mon 07 Nov 1994 - 04:48:10 EET
CL QM-SMTP gw Shamans, Fetchs, and SpiritsDavid Dunham X-RQ-ID: 6851 on 4 Nov 94
>>The logic for having a fetch cast a visability on itself would allow the
>>fetch and the shaman to interact together on the material plane.
>No, that's logic for why you WANT fetches to be able to independently cast
>spells while the shaman is corporate; I want to know what passage in the
>rules logically implies that they can.
You are exactly right. We were allowing fetches to cast visability on themselves so they could interact with their shamans, because that's the way we WANTED it to work. We were not aware of any rules that prohibited it. (Ignorance is Bliss)
But now that you have pointed out to us that the rules don't allow fetches to cast spells while the shaman is corparate. (Spoil Sport) We will probably (pending GM stamp of approval) disallow it in the future. This change in the way we play the game will not effect our game however. In our current scenarios we have never had the need nor opportunity for a fetch to cast a spell while the shaman was still on the material plane. But our GM and I had discussed the possiblity.
So now that David Dunham has succeeded in making things difficult for my shaman, again, or still. I've one more point to address.
According to David Dunham:
>David Cordes gives a detailed description of how shamans work, which is
>pretty close to how I run it. The big difference is that we always thought
>that spirits could be released by the fetch into the mundane plane.
>(Thinking about it after your essay, it might take a casting [by the
>shaman, not the fetch] of Visibility, which could be done on the spirit
>while captured by the fetch.)
According to our GM a shaman cannot directly effect a spirit that is on the spirit plane unless he discorporates and goes there (Except for summon spells). So you still will not be able to cast visability on a spirit that is being held by your fetch. The only way to get a spirit from your fetch to the material plane (while the shaman is corparate) is to summon it using the appropriate spell and ritual ceremony.
If this is how it works? When the spirit arrives is it still under the control of the shaman and fetch? Can the shaman simply order it to do it's one task, or does it have to be battled or controlled before it can be put to work?
If the bond between shaman and fetch is a conduit that the shaman can cast spell through. If the shaman wanted the spirit for more than one task, then he could control the spirit before casting the visability spell. Then the spirit would arrive on the material plane controlled and ready to go. Once the task was complete could the shaman then cancel the visability spell and send the spirit back to be held by the fetch?
DC
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