From: johnjmedway (jjm@zycor.lgc.com)
Date: Tue 20 Jul 1993 - 03:28:03 EEST
shadow@qedbbs.com (Wayne Shaw)
>> Subject: Re: HERESY (?): Avoiding realism in RQ Rules
>> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 02:26:53 PDT
>>
>> Well, that's your choice, but my view on it is that outside of areas
>> where the intervention of fantasy elements distorts the picture, I expect
>> my game system to reality check reasonably, or I'll look for something
>> else. Otherwise, trying to extrapolate past the spelled out issues of
I agree with this completely.
>> David Cheng <drcheng@sales.stern.nyu.edu> writes:
I think David is making a mistake in lumping different _styles_ of weapons into
We need to differentiate _style_ of use, from weapon. Classes should be defined
Classes of Weapon, by style of use:
1H Knife, 1H ShortSword, 1H Sword, 2H Sword, 1H Spear, 2H Spear,
Keep in mind, that the term 'Two-handed Sword' which we sometimes bandy about
There's no reason that a duck couldn't fight with a (small) 2H Sword, unless
>> > I would apply a parallel line of thought to:
>> >
>> > Small 1H Axe (Hatchet) / Average 1H Axe (Battle Axe)
>>
>> > Small 2H Axe (Battleaxe) / Avg 2H Axe (Great Axe) / Big 2H Axe (Poleaxe)
the same continuum. A Poleaxe is not used in the same fashion as other 2H Axes.
It should be in it's own category.
by how the weapon is used ( not too far off from how it is now ). The weapons
would vary by size within a class, and from there the damage rating. I don't
think that there is anything unrealistic in this. The categories we currently
have are very coarse amalgams of existing earth weapons, and probably could
be further refined, without great complication.
1H Club/Mace, 2H Club/Mace, 1H Axe, 2H Axe, Halberd, PoleAxe, ...
Within each of these categories, we rate from tiny to whopping big.
like an absolute, is applicable to the (relatively) puny and short Scottish
'claymore', and also to the german-style zweihander, which was a good deal
longer, and a bit heavier.
their arms and shoulders are built sufficiently differently, but that's another
argument. There is a problem with a duck waddling up and using a normal human
broadsword 2-handed, though, just as a human using a duck 2H sword as a broad
sword. They are built and balanced for how they will be used. Grips would be
wrong, counter- weight wrong, etc.
shadow@qedbbs.com (Wayne Shaw)
>> Again, your choice, but I don't see the benefits in paving over real
>> world distinctions as justified by the conveniance.
Be careful what you are referring to as 'real world'. Are you referring to earth
or glorantha? There's nothing to say that there is a weapon _called_ a bastard
sword in glorantha. That was a european name for a mixed-use sword. It's like
bezainted armor. The _name_ originated with a culture, and really has no meaning
outside of that culture. ( Like Nick's argument v. the Naginata ).
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