From: boris (mabeyke@batman.b11.ingr.com)
Date: Wed 19 Jan 1994 - 17:30:49 EET
Graeme A Lindsell writes:
> Loren Miller writes:
> >In fact, if you are lucky enough to get a copy of "The Glorious
> >Reascent of Yelm" you will see a picture of a God's Wall mural
> >which shows pictures of about 100 Solar deities, each of which
> >can be used as a Rune to describe the sphere of influence of that
> >deity.
>
> I'll probably have to wait for publication to see it :-(.
> Interesting statement about the hundred solar gods (about 100 or
> exactly 100? I'd think the Dara Happans would prefer the century
> of gods). Are any of them female?
I believe Greg is making it available through Wizard's Attic; you might
give Chaosium a call to get the address, etc, if you don't have it. This
is definately a pre-pub copy, made available out of the kindness of Greg's
heart and his awareness of the insatiability of Glorantha fans. It is
definately subject to change and may appear *very* differently in it's
final published form, after the Lunar book is published. BTW, it was
$25.00 at the con, so figure that plus shipping.
>
> Guy Robinson writes:
>
> >The Elemental Runes refelect one of the key strengths of RuneQuest, they
> >reflect a cosmology not entirely enherited from the Greeks by Western
> >Europe. As a student I researched Alchemy to give a talk to a student
> >society and the Greek elemental decomposition I uncovered was Earth, Fire,
> >Water and Air. The RuneQuest elemental division was less common.
>
> The Taoists have five elements I believe, the four Greek ones plus Void.
> Similar to Glorantha before the Lunar Rune. Identifying the Moon as
> an element is odd: earthly religions I've read about have treated it as a
> sky god.
>
> I've heard that the Dara Happans only accept five elements: Darkness,
> Earth, Water, Fire and Lunar: Air doesn't exist. From what I've heard
> of the Glorious Re-ascent of Yelm I wonder if they really believe in the
> elements in the same way the Theyalans do: the Orlanthi find the Elemental
> Runes important because they basically worship two elements and fear the
> other four. Since they formed the basis of RQ2 society we've always seen
> most gods as based around the elements, the few exceptions like Humakt,
> the Trickster and Uleria being very widepsread and independent gods.
The elemental progression Darkness begetting Water begetting Earth
Begetting Sky is mentioned. It's just that Sky is the first "pure"
element, the others are impure and polluted. It appears the Dara Happans
recognize those four elements; perhaps some of the less conservative ones
will admit Moon, but Storm is certainly unrecognized. From a discussion
I had with Greg at the con, the Lunars don't recognize Storm either, at
least not universally. This is due both to the Dara Happan influence, and
the fact that there is no Storm among the Young Elementals.
>
> To the Dara Happans the Sky seems to be everything: they may not see
> it as an element but rather the home of the Gods, as all their gods
> derive from there, and from there send their related gifts of life and
> fire. ('Course, I'm probably spouting bullshit since I haven't seen
> TGoY)
They believe in other elemental deities; it's just that all that is pure
and right and just is from the Sky. Lodril polluted himself by wallowing
in the dirt, and all deities of the other elements are by nature base and
impure.
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