Re: Initiates

• In WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com, Greg Stafford <Greg@...> wrote:
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> >>
> >> This is what made me jump in.
> >> Where does this 60% come from?
> >> An initiate spends 30% of his time in worship.
> >>
> >
> > I was basing this on (I think it was) Thunder Rebels
> > (might have been HW?).
>
> It is always valuable to me to have a reference cited. For one thing,
> I can look it up easily and see what I may have intended, but stated
> badly. for another, it makes people look it up instead of later having
> to correct themselves or apologize.
>
> > It was stated somewhere that with 60% of their
> > time devoted to their gods, devotees could not hold down an occupation
> > in addition.
>
> I believe that it said, or meant, "an occupation different frm their
> devotional deity."
>
> > This implies that 60% of time is roughly "full time,"
> > and hence that an initiate who was also performing some occupation
> > would be at least 60% of time.
>
> This isn't quite right.
> First of all, an occupation is always full time. No 40 hours/week when
> your survival is at stake.
>
> > I think also that in Barbarian
> > Adventures (and the further publications)
>
> Will you find the quote for me? Page numers ae helpful.
>
> > they use 30% of time going
> > to 'occupation' of whatever sort. So 30% for being an inititate, 30%
> > for occupation = same time commitment as a devotee. So a farmer who
> > is an initiate of a farmer god spends about as much time and effort on
> > farming as does does a devotee of a farming god.
>
> No, the calculations are wrong. They are based on false assumptions.
>
> And remember too--it is not just time, but also HP allocation.
>

My apologies. After looking through various books last night, I can only conclude that I never actually read quite what I thought I had, nor did any of the leader diagrams show quite what I thought they did.  It looks like I most likely interpolated incorrectly.

What I would like to see somewhere are some representative diagrams (or simple listings of time) for some 'typical' cottar, carl, and thane. What portions of their commitments to religion, occupation, family, leaders, etc. This might help illustrate the issue better.

Regards;

Bryan             Received on Tue 17 Jul 2007 - 12:55:08 EEST